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- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 00:08:16 PDT
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #805
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Mon, 18 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 805
-
- Today's Topics:
- *finally it arrived* (but why no plus?)
- ARLP028 Propagation de KT7H
- Arrived 7/16/94..
- Can you identify this call sign? - 'NMN'
- Experience with R7
- FCC Delays now at 17 weeks! PLEASE READ!!! (2 msgs)
- Gracilis Inc. e-mail address?
- How do you police hams? (2 msgs)
- Letter to Washington about FCC delays
- License Recieved!!
- Motorola MX360 Programming Help Please!
- Packet Radio Information
- RF ANALIST info
-
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-
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-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 17 Jul 1994 17:39:23 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: *finally it arrived* (but why no plus?)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <H.eg.0U7_ULhYMq6@harvee.billerica.ma.us>
- esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S Johansson) writes:
-
- > well, my long awaited renewal arrived today. I'm legal until 7-7-04. however
- > since I'm one of those techs that took 5wpm *and* the complete general theory
- > to get my ticket, I would have expected something a little different on
- > my ticket like a tech+ perhaps. should I try again with a new 610 and
- > a nice letter?
-
- Nope. Your ticket won't look any different. What you need to do is
- hang on to
- your copy of the CSCE (Certificate of Successful Completion of
- Examination) which
- shows that you completed the code test. That form is what proves the
- difference
- between a no-code tech license and your tech+.
-
- -- Jeffrey Hutzelman (N3NHS) <jhutz+@cmu.edu>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 22:08:20 EDT
- From: psinntp!arrl.org!usenet@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: ARLP028 Propagation de KT7H
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP028
- ARLP028 Propagation de KT7H
-
- ZCZC AP42
- QST de W1AW
- Propagation Forecast Bulletin 28 ARLP028
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 17 Jul 1994 11:22:38 -0700
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!news.claremont.edu!kaiwan.com!not-for-mail@ames.arpa
- Subject: Arrived 7/16/94..
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- After a gruling 15 weeks and 6 days, my ticket finally came in the mail.
- Took the test on March 27th. License effective date says 07/07/94. Took
- over a week to get it.
-
- asandor@kaiwan.com - KE6IHX
- --
- asandor@kaiwan.com - KE6IHX
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Jul 1994 02:15:10 -0000
- From: olivea!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!psgrain!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!torn!uunet.ca!uunet.ca!io.org!nobody@ames.arpa
- Subject: Can you identify this call sign? - 'NMN'
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- This morning at around 3:00 a.m. e.d.t, I heard on 12.71xx MHZ:
-
- cq cq cq de nmn nmn nmn qru? k
-
- Any idea of who/what 'nmn' is? .. or where I could find out?
-
- I tried the callsign server at electra.cs.buffalo.edu, but got
- 'no references'.
-
- Mike
- --
- =======================================================================
- Mike Stramba Email: mike@io.org
- Toronto,Canada Internex Online - Toronto, Canada (416) 363-3783
- =======================================================================
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 17 Jul 1994 01:43:16 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!raffles.technet.sg!solomon.technet.sg!nunas@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Experience with R7
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Paul S. George (psgeorge@infinet.com) wrote:
- : Could anyone tell me what kind of symptoms you would see with a "blown"
- : trap?
-
- Why do you think you have a blown trap? Is there some physical evidence
- that you can see?
-
- I have one that is acting a little strange right now (basically,
- : a lack of reception across the bands... the radio is fine).
-
- Lack of reception could come from any point after the rig. The usual
- problem is a short from braid to centre on the coax. To test to the base
- of the antenna, remove the coax pl259 from the base of the antenna and
- put a dummy load there. Try to load that. Better still is a watt meter
- with dummy load put at the same place. Note that the reading is
- "reasonable (there should be little loss in a coax at 3 MHz and a bit
- more at 28, but if you see lots of loss you have a problem.
-
- What do you mean by lack of reception? A blown trap would screw up the
- loading of the antenna, but you should still hear something on most bands.
-
- I put an
- : ohm meter across the coax feed line from the antennae (disconnected from
- : the radio, of course) and it appears to be a short. I wouldn't have
- : thought that it should look like this.
-
- This is normal. The R7 is an electrical half-wave antenna. As such, it
- exhibits a very high impedance at the base. Your rig and coax match 50
- ohms. So, the antenna designer (a friend of a friend of mine) put a box
- at the base with two torroids inside. This is a network to change the
- impedance of the antenna to something that the ric gan handle - abt 50
- ohms. This matching network appears as a DC short (ie DC, not RF at the
- freqs the antenna works on). This makes the R7 (and the sister R5) a
- "grounded" antenna. This is what gives the "short" with your VOM.
-
- However, I'm not sure what the
- : traps will do. I thought that they were supposed to "trap" electrically
- : the length of the antennae at the given frequencies.
-
- Yes, that is correct. The traps are resonant circuits composed of a coil
- of wire (under the black heat-shrink) and a capacitor (those funny little
- tubes on the side of the radiator). This is a parallel resonant circuit
- (aka "trap"). The antenna uses the bottom portion of the antenna on the
- highest band, the bottom portion plus the part between the first two traps
- (both part of TV1 since there is so little difference between 10 and 12
- meters). And so no, up the antenna/down the bands.
-
- With an ohm meter
- : which uses a DC voltage, would the antennae appear as a short to ground?
-
- As I said above, Yes.
-
- So, what can go wrong with an R7 (or R5)? Well, if you took a lightning
- hit, you would see parts of the antenna here and there. The black box is
- usually the first to go. BUT, you do not have to get a direct hit to
- blow that box! if the lightning passes near the antenna, it can "ring"
- the antenna on its various resonant frequencies. This ringing can look
- to the antenna as if a BIG transmitter were supplying RF!
-
- What happens is damage to the matching network (sometimes the whole thing
- gets blown to smithereens) And, the coils on the traps can vaporize.
- Also, arcing from the centre to the ouside of the capacitors can blow a
- hole or caarbon track the dilectric (the capacitors are mad e of a rod
- covered with insulaton over which ther is a tube. The traps are tuned at
- the factory to resonance by adjusting the amount of overlap between the
- rod and the tube). PS, don't screw with these as you will never get them
- right). In extreme cases, the arc can blow a hole in the tube (looks
- like a bullet went from the inside of the tube to the outside, usually
- towards the main antenna tubeing). Yes, I have had experience with
- damage due tolightning on these antennas 8-(
-
- So, you did not mention any physical damage to the antenna due to
- lightning. You could have damaged it if you put too much RF into it esp
- key-down like on rtty (do you have a mexican kilowat amp?). That sort of
- damage might not show up outside the matching box.
-
- So, bottom line . . .
- First, put the dummy load/wattmeter on the end of the feeder in place of
- the antenna. If i were a betting man, I'd go for a sizeable wager in
- this one).
-
- If the feeder is OK (RF gets through and/or the rig loads normally into
- the dummy but not the antenna), then take the four screws off the
- matching box at the base of the R&. You should see two torroids and a
- couple of other bits (all nice and clean). Look for a failure of the RFC
- (looks like a big resistor) or a broken wire. at any point. There should
- be no scortching anywhere.
-
- : THanks for any information!
-
- You are entirely welcome. Next time you are in Singapore you buy the beer.
-
- ;->
-
- 73 Maurice, 9V1ZS
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 17 Jul 1994 07:01:59 -0700
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!news.claremont.edu!kaiwan.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: FCC Delays now at 17 weeks! PLEASE READ!!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Joe Salemi (jsalemi@doghouse.win.net) wrote:
- :
- : In article <1994Jul13.214528.24601@ccd.harris.com>, Bruce Lifter (bal@ccd.harris.com) writes:
- : >Scott Richard Rosenfeld (ham@wam.umd.edu) wrote:
- : >
- : >: He also said that the FCC is receiving upwards of 50 calls a DAY! And that
- : >: in the time it takes to receive a phone call, TWO licenses could be proces-
- : >: sed! The backlog is now at 15,000 Form 610s!!!
- : >
- : >They seem to be getting more behind each week!
- : >
-
- : Well, recent reports on Compuserve have shown that folks who took their
- : tests in mid-April are starting to receive their licenses. That's
- : about 12 weeks, give or take, so maybe the logjam is finally breaking.
-
- : 73...joe
- :
-
-
- : ----------
- : Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net
- : Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961
-
-
- I teach a monthly no-code license class and my March class just got their
- licenses. The wait: 14 weeks 3 days.
-
- ***********
- Bob Novak, K0OK
- Internet: bnovak@kaiwan.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 17:46:04 GMT
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!witch!doghouse!jsalemi@ames.arpa
- Subject: FCC Delays now at 17 weeks! PLEASE READ!!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
- In article <1994Jul13.214528.24601@ccd.harris.com>, Bruce Lifter (bal@ccd.harris.com) writes:
- >Scott Richard Rosenfeld (ham@wam.umd.edu) wrote:
- >
- >: He also said that the FCC is receiving upwards of 50 calls a DAY! And that
- >: in the time it takes to receive a phone call, TWO licenses could be proces-
- >: sed! The backlog is now at 15,000 Form 610s!!!
- >
- >They seem to be getting more behind each week!
- >
-
- Well, recent reports on Compuserve have shown that folks who took their
- tests in mid-April are starting to receive their licenses. That's
- about 12 weeks, give or take, so maybe the logjam is finally breaking.
-
- 73...joe
-
-
-
- ----------
- Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net
- Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 02:20:30 -0500
- From: news.delphi.com!usenet@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Gracilis Inc. e-mail address?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Can anyone give me the e-mail addres for Gracilis Inc. I have tried
- info@gracilis.com but I get a "return-to-sender" response. Do they
- have a BBS or another access location other than Internet? Any info
- would be helpful.
-
- Greg - KA4IWU
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 14:02:09 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!nshore!fmsystm.telemax.com!fmsys!macy@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: How do you police hams?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <shopsonCszpr2.6Bt@netcom.com> shopson@netcom.com (Scott Hopson) writes:
- >How does the service police itself?
- >
- >I recently tuned into a local repeater to hear an exchange of continued
- >profanity, attempts to jam signals, music being played over conversations,
- >28 WPM code practice, and more by a young kid, some drunk adults, and
- >one pot smoking stoner. This all occurred within a 1/2 hour period. The
- >offenders even gave their call signs. How do you get these people to
- >cease, who has legal authority to enforce laws pertaining to these
- >things?
-
- Well, this isn't the way its supposed to be done, but what's worked
- here is to tape it right off the air and also log/document it in writing.
-
- Send copies to the repeater trustees and offenders, with a letter of
- protest, indicating copies can and will be furnished to the FCC.
- Enclose actual copies of the pertinent FCC regulations involved. Be
- courteous, but firm.
-
- Aside from stating regs were violated, and the FCC is into large fines
- these days, you might make the point that non hams are listening and
- this gives the hobby and service a bad name, and may lead to the
- eventual loss of more of our bands.
-
- In short, you have to do all the homework, and show it.
-
- I'd hate to say you should send this anonymously, to avoid harrassment,
- but that what some have done, and its had an effect when done properly.
-
- Even this hobby has its foolish and immature participants. At least the
- spirit of courteous self enforcement continues to exist, although I'm no
- fan of some of the armchair lawyers I have encountered in these matters.
- --
- Macy M. Hallock, Jr. N8OBG +1.216.723.3030 macy@telemax.com macy@fms.com
- Telemax, Inc. - F M Systems, Inc. 152 Highland Drive Medina, OH 44256 USA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 04:15:21 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcom.com!shopson@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: How do you police hams?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- David Feldman (dgf@netcom.com) wrote:
- :In article <shopsonCszpr2.6Bt@netcom.com> shopson@netcom.com (Scott Hopson) writes:
- :>I recently tuned into a local repeater to hear an exchange of continued
-
- :Let me guess: 147.435?
-
- I think that was the freq...
-
- --
- o_/
- _/|
- ___/_\__
- '
- Cowabunga, dude......
- shopson@netcom.com
- Scott Hopson
- Costa Mesa, Ca.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 16:29:30 GMT
- From: tyrell.net!matthews@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Letter to Washington about FCC delays
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2vur4r$ko@transfer.stratus.com>,
- northup@abersoch.sw.stratus.com (Bill Northup) wrote:
- > Why do you feel that it is beaurocratic bungling, and which beaurocrats ?
- > When your Congressman cut the FCC budget something has to give.
- > The answer just might be "please include a $105 processing fee", so they
- > can hire additional people to do the entry.
-
- The answer might be outsourcing the license processing to a provite
- company. Get it out from under folks who have no reason to think or do
- a good job.
-
-
- +-----------------+------------------------+-----------------------+
- | Rick Matthews | <matthews@tyrell.net> | Finger or Key Server |
- | Baton Rouge, LA | | for PGP Public Key |
- +-----------------+------------------------+-----------------------+
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 17 Jul 94 14:43:56 EST
- From: ccsua.ctstateu.edu!bourque_par@yale.arpa
- Subject: License Recieved!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Took Technician Test: April 10
- License Issued: July 8
- License Mailed: July 12
- Recieved in Mail: July 13.
-
- Total Time: 13 Weeks, 4 Days.
-
- 73 de N1SFE!!
- --
- *----------------------------------------------------------------*
- * Paul Bourque N1SFE | Host of *
- * Engineering Technician- WFCS Radio| "Nocturnal Emissions" *
- * 107.7fm, New Britain, CT | Friday mornings: 3-6AM *
- * 20 Gail Circle Newington, CT | on 91.3fm WWUH *
- * 06111 (203) 223-6767 | *
- * E-Mail: | *
- * BOURQUE_PAR@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU | *
- * PBOURQUE@NYX.CS.DU.EDU | *
- *----------------------------------------------------------------*
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 23:17:21 +0000
- From: pipex!demon!cix.compulink.co.uk!dplumb@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Motorola MX360 Programming Help Please!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have recently acquired a Motorola MX360 txcvr on VHF high, 165/170Mhz.
-
- The full type number is "MX300-S/VHF". The model number is "MAH43SSUP9540AN".
-
- There is a small label inside with the channels programmed (1,2,4,8,9), and
- some details of selective calling fitted.
-
- On taking the metal front off, there is a 7 way connector visible, which
- connects to a daugherboard with a large Motorola IC ZX82140CP (not shown in
- my issue of IC Master). On another daughterboard board below this, there is
- an IC MCM2802, which is in the IC Master, and is an EEPROM.
-
- I would appreciate any information on the radio really, I'm totally in the
- dark at the moment, but especially if anyone knows how to easily reprogram
- the channels!
-
- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
- | Dave Plumb, Potters Bar, Herts, UK.| Internet: dplumb@cix.compulink.co.uk |
- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
- | Fidonet : 2:252/21.27 | Packet : G7MIL @ GB7HSN.#32.GBR.EU |
- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 14:30:44
- From: nwnexus!olympus.net!olympus.net!vaughnwt@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Packet Radio Information
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >Excerpts from netnews.rec.radio.amateur.misc: 17-Jul-94 Packet Radio
- >Information by Jason C. Sokolosky@acs.u
- >> I am looking for information on Packet Radio. Does anyone know
- >> where I can find some??
-
- Anonymous ftp @ ftp.hereford.ampr.org pub/hamradio/tapr/29 "Intro
- to packet radio" and it don't cost you nuthin.
- William Vaughn vaughnwt@olympus.net "Just plain Bill."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Jul 94 06:34:31 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: RF ANALIST info
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I saw the article on RF ANALIST which can measure the SWR,
- impedance, reactance etc. I wish to purchase it for my antenna
- work. I had the following address but need the FAX number
- for quotation. Please send all information to me directly.
-
- RF ANALISTtm(RF-1)
- Autek Research
- 4143W. Waters Ave., #120 Tampa, FL 33614
-
- Thanks in advance.
-
- Tack Kumagai JE1CKA/KH0AM
- email: Tack <je1cka@nal.go.jp>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 14:24:59
- From: nwnexus!olympus.net!olympus.net!vaughnwt@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CssM0y.995@sunsrvr6.cci.com>, <306t3i$kgt@vortex.eng.sc.rolm.com>, <Ct19p1.vo@world.std.com>
- Subject : Re: Is there an ATV newsgroup?
-
-
- >Mont Pierce (montp@vortex.eng.sc.rolm.com) wrote:
- >: In article <CssM0y.995@sunsrvr6.cci.com>, James D. Cronin <jdc@cci.com> wrote:
- >: >
- >: >How about it guys? We got rec.radio.amateur.everything-else...
- >: >
- >: >How about an ATV newsgroup? Any interest?
- >: >
- >: >73...Jim N2VNO
- >: >
-
- >: Definitely interested!! In the mean time, are there any atv mailing
- >: lists?
-
- >: tnx & 73
- >: km6wt
-
- >Me, too ... great idea.
-
- >-drt
-
- >------------------------------------------------------------------------
- >|David R. Tucker KG2S 8P9CL drt@world.std.com|
- >------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Sounds good to me too.
-
- William Vaughn vaughnwt@olympus.net "Just plain Bill."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: (null)
- From: (null)
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 21:38:54 GMT
- From: tyrell.net!matthews@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2vsh6m$3q0@src-news.pa.dec.com>, <2vur4r$ko@transfer.stratus.com>, <gnLAkCKySBY3068yn@tyrell.net>│£
- Subject : Re: Letter to Washington about FCC delays
-
- In article <gnLAkCKySBY3068yn@tyrell.net>,
- matthews@tyrell.net (Rick Matthews) wrote:
- >
- > The answer might be outsourcing the license processing to a provite
- ^^^^^^^
- > company. Get it out from under folks who have no reason to think or do
- > a good job.
-
- Like spelling "private"!
-
- +-----------------+------------------------+-----------------------+
- | Rick Matthews | <matthews@tyrell.net> | Finger or Key Server |
- | Baton Rouge, LA | | for PGP Public Key |
- +-----------------+------------------------+-----------------------+
-
- ------------------------------
-
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